Why This Mom WIll NOT Support Josh Duggar

Josh Duggar What are we teaching our daughtersWhy This Mom WIll NOT Support Josh Duggar

I try not to get political on my blog. I don’t like to start any sort of conflict here, but…  Sometimes, I just can’t keep quiet on a topic.

As a mom, I feel that I need to speak out regarding a topic that has been all over the news and social media the past two days. A topic that I literally lost sleep over last night.

Josh Duggar

Josh Duggar.

If you have not heard/read/seen the news, Josh Duggar was accused of molesting 5 young girls, when he was a teenager.  He has come out, and admitted that he did, in fact, molest these girls. He says, “Twelve years ago, as a young teenager, I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends.”

I’ve been reading a lot about this Josh Duggar thing and I am absolutely shocked, appalled and disturbed by the number of people, the number of PARENTS, that are saying “oh, well, he was just a kid…he’s sorry, so let’s just let bygones be bygones, we all make mistakes.”

Here is a list of a few common, teenage mistakes:

  • Taking your dad’s car without asking.
  • Cheating on an exam because you didn’t study.
  • Sneaking out to go to a party your parents told you you couldn’t go to.
  • Hosting a party while your parents are out of town.
  • Getting a tattoo of your boyfriend’s/girlfriend’s/Taylor Swift’s face.

Hmm…You know what isn’t on that list?  “Sexually assaulting, or molesting elementary and preschool aged girls and siblings” Why? Beacuse that’s not a “teenage mistake”

No.  That’s a CRIME.

What he did was commit a horrific crime. A crime for which there were no real consequences. No real punishment.

Had he murdered someone at age 14, he would have been arrested, and at least put into a juvenile detention center, if not tried as an adult. However, in this case, it was all pushed under the rug, hidden, until it was no longer, legally, an offense that could be prosecuted.

His family did not report these crimes until after the Statute of Limitations had run out (3 years in Arkansas) There is nothing “brave” about that.  They knew he wouldn’t be punished, and in my opinion, only did it to clear their own conscience of these terrible acts.

Now, of course, he didn’t murder anyone. and I’ve heard people argue that comparing it to homicide is “over the top” and comparing apples to oranges. It is different, but his actions have had an impact, most would say life-long, on all of the girls he did this to, as well as the other members of his family.  He may have to live with what he did, but those girls have to live with what was done to them, they didn’t have a choice.  While his confession and apology may give them some kind of closure–at least he’s admitting what he did to us–it doesn’t change what they went though.

He was a serial child molester, who now has children of his own.  I’m no expert and I do not know if he’s “recovered”  however, I find it hard to believe that going off and working construction (As mom, Michelle Duggar has stated was his “treatment”)  would be any sort of effective “rehabilitation” for a sexual predator.

While I can understand and appreciate the concept of living in a “sexually repressed” household, and I understand religion (I am a Christian myself, though, not a fundamentalist like the Duggars)  that is no excuse. This was not “experimentation” or “testing boundaries” this was sexual assault, plain and simple. He didn’t just do this once, he did this over and over and over again to multiple girls, including his younger sisters.

I hear the “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” argument.  Ok, fine, you’re right, none of us are perfect, none of us are without sin, but that does not excuse all the sins of others. I’m fairly certain that Christ wouldn’t be ignoring the seriousness of this act and saying “Hey guys, let’s give this guy a break! We all sin!!  You’re forgiven!” without any kind of consequence.  (I could post a few Bible verses about the treatment of children, here, but I believe that the Bible is open for interpretation and I don’t want to turn this into a Theological debate) And, please, don’t get me started on all the stones the Duggars have cast over the years (and are continuing to throw amid these allegations)  Because we all know, holding hands or kissing someone before marriage or EEK! homosexuality, are terrible, inexcusable sins,  for which you’ll probably go to hell, but child molestation?  It’s all good, there! FORGIVEN!

It sickens me to know that people are totally fine with him just going about his life, like none of this happened and that his parents were ok with him just getting a lil church counseling, working construction, praying about it, and continuing to live under the same roof with their daughters who he molested! He committed one of, if not the most heinous crimes.

Let’s also take a look at  this quote from Josh Duggar:

“I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.”

Did you read that last part?? Let me make it clear

“I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.” 

He would ruin HIS life.  His. I think it’s important to note that he doesn’t say “I was ruining the lives of these little girls” Nope, just his.

Oh, but he confessed, and he said he was sorry…grant the kid some grace!

No. Nope. Now Way. Never.

Why??

I’ll tell you why!! Here is most important part of this story:

What are we teaching our girls?

Are we telling them that it’s not really a crime to be sexually assaulted…as long as the attacker is a teen, white, from a good Christian home and asks God to forgive him his transgressions? Or, since it’s your sibling, we will just not tell anyone because you wouldn’t want your brother to get in trouble! Think of what it would do to our family (and our reality show income!) Plus, you’re just a girl, and girls are to be subservient, you’re just learning how much so at a very early age. That’s what Michelle and Jim Bob are telling their girls. And, those defending Josh are telling their girls the same thing, by excusing his actions.

Sorry, but I’m not ok with that.  I want my daughter to know, and I think most mothers and fathers would agree, that if ANYONE hurts her, or does anything of a sexual nature to her that she is not comfortable with, I will do everything in my power to validate what has happened to HER, not to her attacker.  I will support my daughter, I will listen to her, I will believe her, I will love her and I will help her.

I want her, and all females to know, that a sexual assault is NEVER their fault. NEVER. And there is never, ever, ever, any excuse for it. It is ALWAYS wrong.

Why are we supporting the Josh Duggars of the world?  Giving them grace, letting them hurt young girls, and letting them get away with it? We should be supporting the girls, our girls, all women.

They are the victims in this.

Not the Josh Duggars.

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Update: I’d love to respond to every comment, but unfortunately, I just can’t at this time, so I wanted to address a few things that came up a lot in your comments.  Regarding my statement that Jesus wouldn’t be so forgiving, I should clarify. Jesus would forgive, certainly, that’s what he’s all about.  I just don’t think he’d be so “Oh well, no biggie” about it as so many people seem to be. As a Lutheran, I believe that Christ died for our sins and through faith we are saved. Period. That said, it is not my job to forgive Josh Duggar.  Should his victims choose to forgive then I am 100% for it, if that is what they need to do for themselves, on their personal journey to healing. However, I don’t think we as a society should be so quick to just say “Forgive and forget” in situations such as this, because while it teaches forgiveness, it also ignores the greater impact on women and girls. 

The whole point of this post was not to revel in the suffering of the Duggars, It was not intended as a means to bash them in order to make myself feel good.  I don’t feel good when others suffer. I also did not have any strong opinions on the Duggar family prior to this.  I have watched the show a handful of times, and truly had no interest in them. Did I think they had too many children?  You betcha, but it is their life, and it doesn’t impact me at all.  So, no, I do not “enjoy” the suffering that I am sure every single member of the family is going through right now, but this is far too important of a topic to ignore.

My feelings on this topic would be the same no matter who the offender was. It just happened that this particular case became headline news, and prompted me to write about it.

I also want to thank everyone who shared their personal stories. I think it is both brave and strong to share your experiences in such a public way and it can only move to help others who may be in a similar situation.

Also, I greatly appreciate everyone who took the time to read, and comment. There are some great and valid points being made, and it has opened up a wonderful dialogue here, and hopefully in your own lives.

Please note: While I respect everyone’s right to their opinion, and you are welcome to express those opinions here in the comments, please be kind to each other.  No fighting, or nastiness. I will delete inappropriate comments, and if I see things get out of control, I will disable commenting completely.

213 comments

  1. Jen says:

    Let’s just wander down the path of forgiveness for a minute. It 100% ((((!!!)))) does not excuse what he did. But, if those girls are able to forgive him, they will still be forever wounded by his actions. 30 years later, 60 years later, 80 years later, they will always carry that with them and their lives (including their sex lives) will never be what they could have been. He has stolen that from them.

    I do want to say that I saw a man named Matthew West in concert and during this performance a woman came out and told of the darkest time of her life. It inspired him to write a song and I think it’s worth taking a few minutes to read her story because it is beyond what I believe I (and most people) are able to do. (this is not about sexual assault, but about forgiveness, fyi) http://www.matthewwest.com/the-stories/the-story-forgiveness/ Please take the time to read beyond the first paragraph if you don’t want to hear another “religious” story, although this is definitely a tale of faith. Her story will blow you away!

    Also it struck me that had the statute of limitations (which doesn’t run out for murder and should never, ever run out for sexual offenses, especially to young girls) had expired, those men who wind up in prison are tortured for their actions (mess with a kid or an animal and you are shark bait!). This is how nearly all of the world views sexual offenses. Oh, and calling it “molestation” simply downplays what it really is!

    By the way, the woman in this story and the man appeared TOGETHER on the stage. So, like I said earlier, I think forgiveness is possible. Forgetting, becoming somehow unaffected by Josh Duggar’s actions to you – that is simply not something that’s possible. I speak from personal experience (and no, I was not one of the Duggar kid’s victims).
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    • JJ says:

      I was sexually molested as a young girl–on several occasions, by and adult in-law in my family. I affected me more than I realized as an adult. I had forgiven the abuser but I had this horrible guilt and shame from me to me. I got counseling and Jesus in point of fact totally set me free. I can’t describe it, but when I broke through, I was totally free. This child-teen had a problem and need/needs proper professional counseling for it. If he is truly repentant, he needs forgiveness. When we hurt one is society, we hurt all of the society. So Yes dear website owner, you do need to forgive and pray that this person has gotten the help he needed/needs, and the same for the girls. It’s often our own displaced guilt that causes us continued pain. Once you are truly free, you are truly free. It’s not gone totally. My therapist said it would be like a pebble in shoe that you will always feel in some way. But there are many pebbles that can tend get into our shoes in life. No one gets out of this life scar free. I just love how the Oprah people and others are just loving seeing another Christian had a sin problem. If he had true grace from Christ, it will no let go of him or those girls. The media is just now trying to further smear Christianity with this, and that is another sick part of this whole thing. If it were a Hollywood player, it would get half the negativity and more sympathy. The hypocrisy.

      • AD says:

        I totally agree with JJ I am a sexually abused person, I was never counseled but I am totally set free by the counsel of Jesus himself. Whenever I told my principal I was not taken seriously because it was not looked down upon at the time I am guessing. Boys will be boys so to say. I will never forget the shame and humiliation of several times being assaulted at the tender age of twelve. It had made me bitter after a while and I thought all guys did this. I can tell you it made a big difference in the way I treated my husband when ever I married. But after a while I felt God calling me to let him help me so I asked for forgiveness even though I had done nothing wrong to get this sort of treatment, I was a modest young girl, but always seemed to be the target of such things. Never a flirt, never ogling boys because I was afraid of them. Is there any wonder? I hated myself for years. But as I said Jesus helped me to deal with it and I got delivered of these awful feelings. I am normal and I have dealt with my problems and I am a good wife and mother. I was very protective of my children in that I asked them if people bothered them in inappropriate ways, though. I kept an eye out for different signs. Thank the Good Lord they were never touched like that in any way. They are married and have families of there own. I think often of what I could have or should have done but I don’t know if it would have made a difference. I am just thankful that I can forgive the ones that did it. They were kids like me exploring and I know it doesn’t look good or feel good to the ones that were assaulted but the boy was exploring I don’t believe he meant any harm to the ones that were assaulted, they never do. I know the ones who assaulted me didn’t mean to cause me mental stress but it was undue mental stress. I have forgiven and all of us have no right NOT to forgive Josh Duggar. We don’t know his life or what he has done to pay for the things he did. God is the judge and He says to forgive those who have spitefully used you. I don’t think it was spite that drove him but I do believe we have a mission to forgive him no matter what we feel. It’s a new testament command. I forgive him, and he didn’t do anything to me. Why should we do any less than what Jesus did. He forgave the ones who killed him. Are we any better than he is? No!! We all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God. Those of you have no sin cast the first stone. Oh!! I forgot! Alot of us already did, and we are no better than he was at the age of 14!! Check yourself at the door people God is looking at us as individuals!!! I’m sorry but it’s hypocritical to talk about someone who has already asked forgiveness and been forgiven, to talk about someones past sins and say hey Im so much better because I haven’t done this I’ve only _______________. Sin is Sin read your bible!

      • Kt64 says:

        Thank you so much for this comment! I have kept out of this conversation for days just because so many people who post, post vicious attacks on this family because they are Christian. Yes, what Josh Duggar did was incredibly wrong and hurt others in a way some people would never understand. Yes, this situation should have probably been handled differently, but it was not. Finally, what very few people fail to realize is this situation is NONE of the public’s business. If Josh was truly sincere in his apology to these girls and he repented for what he did AND these girls truly accepted and took to heart his apology (like you mentioned) then the only one who should have any sort of a say in this is the ones involved and God. So many people want to burn people at the stake because they are Christian or because they disagree with what they have done, but, very few realize they hurt these victims more doing so AND their words are merely opinions formed out of judgment and unfortunately, sometimes, hate. Thank you for shedding some new light on this situation.

        • Carrie says:

          The attacks are not BECAUSE they are Christian. It’s because the father lied and covered up a crime until statutes of limitation were past. The son molested his own 4 younger sisters and the father still did not report it in a timely manner as to get justice and closure for the girls. He claims he is a Christian. But he did not do the Christian thing here. I wish everyone on theses posts would stop making it about religion, what’s written in the Bible, or forgiveness. It is about a crime that was committed against at least 5 girls. And he got away with it. No jail like anyone else. No type of punishment because daddy hid the facts. All the people quoting Bible verses and forgiveness need to think about the fact these girls have had to live with, work with and continue smiling on tv with their molestor. If you or anyone else thinks they have truly forgiven, you are way off. They MUST show the world they are fine as not to disrupt their show. Remember, the ” show must go on” ? But now that the show is cancelled, you might start hearing differently, unless daddy still makes them keep quiet for the family. No one seems to understand that we have laws to protect us. A crime was committed by one and the laws that are supposed to protect failed due to the fathers lies and covering . This isn’t a matter of FORGIVENESS, ,whether the girls forgive or not. It’s about a horrible crime that was committed and no one was punished for the crime. That’s it. It’s only about the crime!!!!!!!! He skated on a charge and now that it is too late to prosecute, they come forward and all of a sudden, SORRY. And expects forgiveness. And a LOUSY apology at that.

        • Carrie says:

          KT64. I beg to differ. When a crime is committed, it is everyone’s business. That’s why we have public court records and court hearings. Why anyone can walk into almost ANY court and sit and hear all about the crime committed and who was charged. Still forgetting, just because he was only 14, doesn’t make it any less of a crime. If, a 50 year old man just fondled a child with clothes on and were caught, he would have to pay for his crime. And everyone would be posting wanting to crucify him. But. Good ol Josh And family Duggars have a fan base, a TV show. And live without electronics so they have to be true and wonderful people, 100% honest and perfect Christians. So. Nooooo. He is a good boy who just made a mistake… Boys will be boys….ummmm for a whole year with 5 girls. Nah, he didn’t do anything wrong.”.

    • Denise says:

      Your comment “they will be forever wounded” really limits the healing power of God. Some may be forever wounded, but not all. I have received complete healing and do not want you speaking for me.

  2. Laura says:

    Thank you for saying so eloquently how I feel. I have been thinking about the girls a lot and hoping the girls received real counseling. I can’t imagine being a child and having to live with a sexual abuser. I believe in prayer, but I believe those girls needed/need counseling from trained professionals. I have a horrible feeling their counseling consisted only of how to forgive their brother.

    • Sarah says:

      Thank you Laura, I too hope the received counseling, but like you, fear that wasn’t the case. It seems their main focus was on protecting Josh and helping him.
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  3. Jen says:

    Just something of interest. I turned on TLC and it says that “19 Kids….” is supposed to be playing, but they are playing “The Little Couple.”. I watch TLC a lot, but I’ve probably watched “19 Kids…” a total of 5 times since it’s been on. I suspect TLC is running around like crazy, since they have been playing a “19 Kids…” marathon. Eeep. Oh well, TLC.
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    • Sarah says:

      I too, have only seen the show a handful of times. I agree, TLC is probably doing some serious damage control behind the scenes!
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    • Katrina says:

      They have cancelled the show. TLC will not be airing the series anymore. They are doing the exact same thing like they did with Honey Boo Boo. When the mom was found to be having a relationship with a registered sex offender. I thought that when it can to child molestation the statue of limitation expires 3 years after the child’s 18th birthday or is that just in some states.

      • Tracy Isenberg says:

        The statute is different in every state. Some are 3 years after the 18th birthday, some are 5 years, etc. I believe this situation is different because the offender was a minor at the time of the assault, but that is just a guess on my part.

  4. Jamie says:

    i too stewed and brewed on this for hours I am a survivor of sexual abuse and all I can say is how upsetting it is that they focused on the abuser instead of the victims. The parents chose to do what was in HIS best interest. I am appalled and shocked by this story but what makes it worse is those poor girls who had to sit by quietly while he remained in the home. I am a Christian and 100% believe in forgiveness what makes me mad is that the abuser /molester was the one who’s future was protected. While the girls future was not…apart from side hugs

    • James West says:

      The victims have not spoken. They are all adults not. When they report what was done to them, then we can all have an opinion and take sides on the issue. We know only what Josh has told us. There has been a lot of conjecture here, a lot of so-called explicit detail imposed upon the little we know. The so-called crime has become the most heinous as it can be by people who know very little about the case. Some have assumed that there was rape, penetration, and violence. Much of what we are reading comes from those who have been violated and who seem to be imposing on this case all the shock they have experienced themselves. One can understand this and even sympathize, but it appears we are going beyond the facts of the Duggar case in an attempt to reopen a case that was long ago closed, legally speaking. Now there are some who are suggesting that Josh molested girls because he was himself molested. Next thing we know, some family member will be implicated. It’s like gossip: it can’t be stopped once it is started. We should put an end to using Josh Duggar as a whipping post for all the complaints we hear about molestation. It is an abhorrent sin. Who in their right mind can justify it. But it is a forgivable sin. The victims and perpetrators have to deal with it — the former by finding God’s grace sufficient for the offense, and the latter by applying God’s grace to overcome the shame and any punishment meted out. In the final analysis, justice must run its course, and we don’t need any “kangaroo courts” to perform that function. When human justice fails, there is a all-righteous Judge Who will set all things right one day. It is our task to defend the weak, to rebuke and hold accountable the unrepentant, and to encourage each one to roll our burdens upon the One who promises to sustain us in all life’s trials. He is Able!

      • kia says:

        I read the 33 page police report. He touched the girls in his sleep and while they were awake. The touching was above the clothing and beneath. He also touched their vagina and breast. It was documented as a felony and called forcible touching. The girls stated the touching was unwanted. This was not a case of kids experimenting and playing doctor. One of the victims was 5 years old. He molested them for over a year. He didn’t stop when dad confronted him. A year later dad found out it was still going on and that’s when he was moved out the house to do manual labor.

        • B. says:

          There is no indication of the age of the children involved. Most of the children were asleep and did not remember (not that this in any way excuses the behavior), and the incidents happened over the course of a year, but not repeatedly day after day. The police report indicates a handful of times, at most. Clearly, he was struggling with some crazy teenage hormones and urges and did not know what to do with those feelings or how to get help. And clearly, his parents were grossly unprepared for dealing with such behavior (as I believe nearly all parents would be–who is prepared to deal with their son molesting their daughters??? What parent would not stop and question how to handle that?).

          • M says:

            B – Yours is the first comment/post I’ve seen that recognizes how difficult this would be for the parents. If it were a stranger, uncle, cousin…it seems to me that the way forward would be much clearer. You must protect your own children at all coasts. But when the offender is also your own child? I think it would be very difficult to know the right way to deal with this situation. While it’s not popular, I do feel empathy for the parents.

  5. Curious says:

    I’m curious who abused him? The trouble with abuse is that it’s a cycle – and NOT just an independent act or a “teenage mistake”. Please, don’t misunderstand, I am not suggesting that he was in the right or that he didn’t deserve to be held accountable for his actions. I also don’t believe that being abused gives you a right to continue that cycle. But we talk about these girls and what they suffered (and will continue to suffer), but because he continued the cycle, it no longer matters if he had been abused?
    I was abused by my own family, and it was mostly covered up for years and years. I certainly understand the impact it has on a little girls life forever. I also know that those who abused me had also been abused against their will – and most of what I endured wasn’t meant to be harmful, it was largely experimental because they didn’t understand what had happened to them.
    Does it excuse what they did? Not at all. Can I forgive? I’m working on it, though it’s been nearly 30 years. Can I forget? No way, I’m reminded daily and just pray that my own children never have to endure what I have.
    I guess what I’m trying to say is, maybe there’s more to the story. I think he probably needed (and still probably does) real counseling just as much as the girls do.

    • Sarah says:

      Thank you for sharing! I think you make a very good point! It’s absolutely true that it is (or can be) a cycle. I don’t know if we will ever know for sure if he was abused and if so, by whom. I don’t think it “doesn’t matter” if he was also abused. I think that is an important fact–however, we do not have that information. We don’t know if he was abused or not. I’m sorry for what you went through! I think it is important to note, that I feel that forgiveness is on the terms of the abused. If these girls want to forgive him, if that helps them get through this painful journey, then I am completely supportive of that. My issue is that I don’t think we as a society should so easily forgive those who commit these crimes. I think that sets a terrible example for women and girls. And I agree 100% that he absolutely needed/needs real counseling!

      • Jen says:

        I agree that the forgiveness is for the abused to work through. We wouldn’t ever have heard about this horror if he wasn’t “famous.” I also agree that abuse CAN BE a cycle. I was molested as a child; I do not molest children. Curious, I am so sorry for what you went through, but my assumption would be that you are not a sex offender. I just wanted to make that point. I am not giving Josh an out but I don’t think it’s fair to make an assumption, either.
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    • dawn says:

      Thank you. You are the first person I’ve seen mention the cycle factor. It does not excuse his actions, but most likely Josh himself was a victim of sexual abuse first.

    • chloey says:

      Finally some one who had the same thought as me. There is a saying that all offenders are victims, but not all victims are offenders. When I first read the story my first thought was I wonder who touched him first. I myself was molested by a close family friend when I was a little girl. He was a teenager. As we got older it came out that he had been abused as well. I spent my college years studying Criminal Justice with the goal of being a special victims detective. In one class I wrote multiple papers studying pedophilia. Its easy for everyone to say hes a horrible person, but as a victim and a woman who forgave my molester I can honestly say, it is possible for a TEENAGER who committed these acts to be a different better person 13 years later.

  6. Louise says:

    as a victim of abuse similar to this, it is a slap in the face for every woman and child who suffered this to see him get off free. I am sorry. and now the judge destroyed the case papers and the police claim there are no papers. I am sorry he should be put on trial. he was set free for his crimes.

    • Carrie says:

      Louise , finally a person with reason! Exactly, crime committed, should have a person responsible to be punished. He is Scott free never to pay for what he did. I for one have read a lot on child molestation and sexual predators. It is very doubtful that he won’t do this again at some point. That is a mental sickness that so far no doctor has been able to cure. Ask any single predator in jail and they will all tell you they can’t help it. They are drawn to it. They will all do it again. If it had just been once , I will even give you twice, could be experimental. But doing it for a year to 5 girls is a sickness that he can’t just stop. He should be behind bars.

  7. Lesley says:

    My problem with all of this…..he confessed all of this to his wife and her parents BEFORE they married and she still married him and now has innocent, vulnerable children with this “man”. Every person who knew about this: his parents, the police, his wife, her parents, the construction boss, etc, should ALL be held accountable and be punished!

    • Jenny says:

      Be punished for what? Josh is the one who did something wrong…and if the stories are true about his parents waiting to tell authorities…then they too are at fault…but no one else is at fault in this. And everyone deserves a second chance and the right to be forgiven. Jesus forgave each one of us…and we are supposed to live as Jesus lived. He forgave whores, murderers, rapists…whatever as long as they turned away from their sin. So Josh now deserves the same. People want to beat a dead horse and continue to punish people forever. That’s not how it works. I am not agreeing with his actions or his parents’ actions…I’m just saying…we are supposed to forgive. And furthermore, if the victims have forgiven him…then it’s none of our business.

      • Ben says:

        You are completely breezing by the part where he apologized and “came clean” AFTER that statute of limitations was up. His parents knew what he did and hid it to keep him from being prosecuted. He’s not sorry. He’s sorry he got caught.

        • Carrie says:

          Ben, thank you so much. I was beginning to think everyone is insane. The comments from others about forgiving him?? Nothing here about the horror the girls endured. And to anyone out there telling yourself it is ok for young girls to be raped, molested, etc, because boys will be boys. You are justifying rape. All you have to do is forgive , Sorry, I believe you need to feel being a mother of a 5 to 10 year old girl who cries every night. Who is afraid to leave the house, who now can barely function. All because “BOYS WILL BE BOYS”????? Sometimes, this is called RAPE. Sometimes it is dropped to Assault in a plea bargain. But either way, the victim doesn’t always survive it and sometimes they can’t get back to a normal life. sometimes the girl ends up killing herself , sometimes the rape kills them. Anyone Condoning this behavior with forgiveness is absurd and belittling the value of the victim and what they had to endure. Your saying it’s ok. .?? What will you feel when it’s your child that was raped or sodomized or beaten to death for fear she may tell someone? No no no I will not forgive anyone who hurts a child. I don’t care how many other fools that do. I believe Josh Duggar and any other molester, rapist, whatever, should be forced to get their penis cut off. This is not ok and never will be. I personally would like Josh Duggar to have to experience what he did. But most of all he deserves prison. He does not deserve anyone’s forgiveness.

          • Carla says:

            I agree with you Carrie and Ben. Forget about all the Christian rhetoric here there are plenty of “Christian men” in prison for doing what this guy there. The parents are guilty for knowing this and not somehow having him pay the penalty others have paid for the same thing. This is about the victims not the criminal, which he is. As far as I’m concerned his parent obstructed justice.

            The saddest part of all, if this guy was gay, his parents would have bigger issues than him being a child molester…AN INCEST CHILD MOLESTER. Yes forgiveness for the healing, letting his guy get away with is is not the same and to me seems like a case of entitlement.

            I’m not a fan of the fundamentalist lifestyle, but to each their own, we have that freedom in our country, but to protect a child molester is not acceptable. PERIOD..

        • Alison says:

          How can you possibly know what he was thinking? Seriously! Get a grip on reality and stop judging so harshly.

          • Frances says:

            Alison, yet another person who cares nothing about the lifetime of pain survivors of abuse endure. Shameful, Most sickening part is so many of you whining about a child molestor being judged too harshly are probably parents, and your children deserve better than you. Because they are definitely not safe in your care. Sickening. People like you, Alison, are why child abuse is still so rampant. You are part of the problem. Continuing the cycle right along with the abusers themselves.

          • stacey says:

            His parents DID take him to a police officer…..one who is now in prison for over 56 years for child pornography. That officer probably made the situation worse.

          • EM says:

            They took him to a family friends who is an officer of the law. This family friend did NOT fulfill his legal duty and file a report. He did not remove the abuser from the home until an investigation was complete. He did not instigate any investigation whatsoever. He gave Josh a “stern talking to.” That is NOT reporting to law enforcement. That is bringing in your cop friend to try and scare your kid straight. Not even sort of the same thing. At all.

          • B. says:

            The police report indicates that it is unclear how well the father new the officer. The father knew the officer because he owned a used car lot, and the officer inspected the cars. He was not a family friend. And there was no way that Josh’s father could have known that the officer would be arrested down the road. It’s absurd to think he would have knowledge of that before the officer was caught or that he would have taken his son to a man like that intentionally. Either way, he took him long before the statute of limitations was up.

      • Carrie says:

        Jenny forgiving doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be punished. HE COMMITTED A CRIME. He should have to pay his time in jail and be listed under the registry for sex offenders, just like any other molester, because THAT is what he is.!! Police did NOT do their job at all here. They hid it along with the parents because they were famous. Probably got a nice pay day from it too!

      • Carrie says:

        Jenny, unless something has changed???? Not reporting a crime you have knowledge of can be considered a crime in itself.

        • Jen says:

          I can’t remember if I wrote this already, but I was molested as a child. The police were called in (helpful since my father was one of them) and a report was filed. Since the “man” had a psychiatric hospitalization (and maybe had gotten out shortly before that – details aren’t clear about that part of things), he wasn’t charged. I DO NOT CONDONE what the Duggar family did, but he isn’t the only child molester to get off without punishment. This was over 30 years ago. I think at this point the girls really are getting ignored. They are the victims and they are the ones who have to cope with this.

  8. catherine says:

    I want to know if the girls in their hearts really forgave him or if they felt they had to voice that because it’s what they were being taught or told they needed to do. I don’t think all really forgave him. I think they were coerced into that because that’s what they felt they had to do to make mom and dad happy.

    I also want to know for those who believe prayer and asking for forgiveness was enough… do they believe that for all child molesters? If that’s the case, would they be ok with every single child molester currently serving time to be released and immediately allowed access to their children as long as they pray and ask for forgiveness? The Duggar did go on vacations and trips without all the kids leaving the older kids in charge… so Josh was left unsupervised with his victims many times.

    As a victim of child rape and molestation who was told it was horrible of me to even discuss it and threatened with beatings after I told my teacher and she called my parents… 25 years later I still remember her asking me the next day what my family said. I told her the truth. Thst my family said if I ever discussed it again I would be beaten. She said ok well at least they know and walked back in the class. I still remember that. Painfully so.

    That being said since he confessed to even one and then multiple offenses… I believe there should be no statute of limitations. He admitted to sexual touching a 5 year old for Christ sakes. He needs to be labeled a sexual offender and predator, then thrown in jail. I think many are forgetting he has a girl child at home the same age of those he victimized.

    I’m just beyond disgusted at how this family handled things and how they are wiping it under the rug with a “he prayed, asked forgiveness, and all is well” mentality. How can Michelle even look in the mirror knowing she allowed the man who sexual assaulted multiple children/siblings of her stay under the same roof and be ok?

    I’m sorry… I just… yeah.

    • Ben says:

      Exactly. And for the record regarding my other comments, I would probably feel much differently had he and his parents faced up to what he had done in a timely manner, and if his apology hadn’t been so self-centered.

  9. YOUareconstant says:

    I too, do not agree with what Josh did, and obviously he doesn’t either. I understand the resentment from all walks of life (not just the people on this blog) and I understand the pain and hurt it caused the victims becuase I have been there. But I’d like to make light that although it wasn’t right, that does not make it right for people to antagonize him and his family. The Lord is the ultimate Judge and He soon will judge all of us. And in His eyes, the sin of molesting and gossip are just the same. Please please women and men of the faith, be gracious and kind in the words that you think and say. I agree that our ypung girls need to know that sexual perversion is NEVER normal or okay, so i ask you to instead of posting all over social media, talk with your kids in private about it but don’t demean your own reputation by trying to rip others down in order to compare or esteem yourselves or your family. The truth is that, probably, anyone of you would not have asked to have your son taken away from you in order to be put into juvenile prison. Also, none of us know the amount of couseling or what counseling went into Josh and the girls after all was out. What Josh did say to the press, was probably a very quick “interview” asking about HIM specifically and not about what he knew or had seen or had asked about the girls. Please be careful in your assumptions from just a few words. Instead of tearing down let’s ask ourselves, our husbands, and maybe mentors IF this situation came about in our own familes how we would handle it. But not spread it all over social media to tear down. Let’s try to be a solution instead of a problem.

  10. Adrienne says:

    I agree with most of the points. The Duggers handled this very wrong. I don’t agree with everything the Duggers do or believe. The only thing that bothers me is that you are a Christian but believe homosexuality is not a sin. Jesus clearly says it’s a sin and that it’s punishable. Is he lying? Yes, Christian are to be loving and forgiving…but sin is still sin and we can’t accept that. (Not saying that we should throw stones and insults at them…but we shouldn’t acknowledge it as “ok”)

    • Sarah says:

      Hi Adrienne, Yes I am christian, and no, I do not believe that homosexuality is a sin. I am a Lutheran (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) and I believe that God created us all to be who we are. If you are gay, it is because you were created that way. I do not believe in a vengeful, God who punishes his children by throwing them into the pits of hell (In fact, I personally don’t even believe in hell, I believe our hell is on Earth and we create it for ourselves..but this is another topic all together) There are many “sins” in the Bible that we ignore, cutting our hair for example…and many things in the Bible that we now know are awful and vile, like slavery. Anyway, that’s all I’m going to say about the topic. Thank you for commenting

      • Adrienne says:

        I have never read that cutting hair was a sin. There’s a separation between the Old and New Testament. The Old Testament was for the Jewish Nations. The New Testament is for all nations. And while God doesn’t condemn slavery, I think people forget the original intentions. If a Jew found themselves in tremendous debt they could sell themselves to slavery. However, the owner was expected to treat them with respect. There was a large Jewish festival every 7 years and all the owners were required to release their slave and wipe their debt clean. Man’s idea of slavery was not God’s. I appreciate your response. I see Christianity as a discipline. Some people are born with sexual desires, violent desires, etc. As a Christian we are to suppress these to become more Christlike. God gave us the free will to make choices. I don’t know much about Luthern but I am intrigued to learn more about what is taught. (I am non denominational)

        • EM says:

          The bible absolutely has restrictions on cutting hair, as well as eating shellfish and pork, and many other practices that are ignored by modern Christians. Where in the Bible does it say that God’s laws from the OT no longer apply? Does Jesus not explicitly say that God’s laws have NOT been replaced, but that they are still to be followed? From a theological standpoint, the sacrifice of pure blood opened the promise of salvation to all people, not just God’s chosen people. But it never states that God’d laws are now moot. Christians root their beliefs in the Ten Commandments, which are from the OT and were for the Jewish Nation, but few follow a kosher diet, also in the OT and for the Jewish Nation. Where does it say that some laws don’t apply? If homosexuality is a sin, so is eating bacon, as the NT specifically and explicitly states that God’s laws are eternal. And in God’s eyes, every sin is equal. There is no difference between the sinner who eats lobster and the sinner who is homosexual. There is no difference between the murderer and the prideful. So when Christians eat shellfish or cut their hair, it makes it pretty hard to stomach the obsession some Christians have with condemning homosexuality.

          • callie says:

            There are 3 divisions of law actually: moral, ceremonial, and civil. Ceremonial laws such as hair cutting, shellfish, mixed cloth types… were to set apart the Israelites as a special chosen people and do not apply to the church today. Moral laws such as sexual deviance ( homosexuality is clearly and undebatedly in this category, along with murder, lying,…) still stand and are affirmed multiple places in the NT. Jesus fulfills and affirms these laws. So, no, we do not “pick and choose.” Homosexuality is just a hot topic nowdays with people trying to shove it down our throats

          • EM says:

            Can you quote the part of the bible where it says that some laws only apply to the Jews and some laws apply to everybody? Where does it say that? Where, in Leviticus, does it differentiate between the abomination that is homosexuality, and the abomination that is eating shell fish?

            Lev. 18:22
            ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.’

            Leviticus 11:9-12
            9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

            10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

            11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

            12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

            Where does Jesus say that those who believe that he is the Messiah no longer need to follow certain Biblical laws?

            Matthew 5:17-18
            17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
            18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

            Where does Jesus say that the law of Leviticus that bans homosexuality is not to be broken, but that the other laws in the exact same book of the Bible are to be thrown away? Are we to believe that when Jesus said that God’s law is eternal, he didn’t really mean all of God’s laws? Then how do we know he meant the ones about homosexuality?

      • callie says:

        I would encourage you to find a church that preaches correct Biblical doctrine as these ideas are not consistent with the Bible. Read the story of Lazarus and the rich man that exhibits a literal hell not of the world of the living. There are other passages as well. God isn’t casting us to hell. We are given a choice, and His holiness cannot accept sin.
        Also, homosexuality is stated clearly as a sin NT and OT under moral law which still stands today. (There are 3 types : moral (ex: lying, sexual immorality including homosexuality, etc) , civil, and ceremonial (that’s the hair cutting and kosher laws and such that only applied to Israelites to set them apart). New studies are debunking the “gay gene” theory anyway, but even if we are “just born that way” with a certain proclivity to sin (for example lusting) it does Not give us license to sin. By your logic it’s ok for a drunkard to keep drinking or a serial killer to keep killing. Jesus said go and sin no more to such people.
        I encourage you to read the Bible and a reliable commentary (john macarthur is great) on these subjects.

      • Opal says:

        I even did it in KJV-Leviticus 18:22 Thou shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.Leviticus 20:13- if a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
        Then we move to NT-Romans 1:27-and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemingly, and recieving in themselves that recompence of their error…
        Does not say homosexual but clearly defines it.

    • Lisa says:

      Adrienne, that is a common misconception. In reality, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality one way or the other.

      • Opal says:

        Does it matter who said it- 1 Corinthians 6:9- or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revivers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 10- such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
        Whether we like it or not these people can be redeemed.

        • Rena says:

          Check the KJV, which is considered one of the most literal translations. I know there is a more literal one out there,but the point is not that. The point is that not every version uses the word homosexuals, and that is an interpretation. In many versions, the word homosexual is never used… therefore it is not made quite as clear as you think it is.

          • Sarah says:

            Exactly, Rena. Some Bibles use “effeminate” The word homosexuals is a modern day translation. (People playing with words to prove their own belief. Original text used the word “malakoi” which was referring to men who were apt to be lazy, or cared “too much” about their appearance or were vain.
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          • Opal says:

            Outline of Biblical Usage for effeminate-Malakos
            soft, soft to the touch
            metaph. in a bad sense
            effeminate
            of a catamite
            of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
            of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
            of a male prostitute

          • Opal says:

            I even did it in KJV-Leviticus 18:22 Thou shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.Leviticus 20:13- if a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Then we move to NT-Romans 1:27-and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemingly, and recieving in themselves that recompence of their error… Does not say homosexual but clearly defines it. – See more at: http://sweetlilyou.com/why-this-mom-will-not-support-josh-duggar/#comment-78676

      • Bri says:

        Sodom and Gomarroh were destroyed partially due to homosexuality. Open your eyes people it is a sin! What Josh Duggar did was a sin. We can’t pick and choose which ones we want to obey! The Sodomites were destroyed for the general wickedness which had prompted the Lord to send angels to the city to investigate in the first place; (2) the city was destroyed because the people of Sodom had tried to rape the angels; (3) the city was destroyed because the men of Sodom had tried to engage in homosexual intercourse with the angels…; (4) the city was destroyed for inhospitable treatment of visitors sent from the Lord.[1]

        • Em says:

          Are you equally appalled by those who eat pork? This is a sin in the OT, the same section of the bible that condemns homosexuality. Jesus is very clear that he does not replace God’s law, and that God’s law is eternal. If Christians, as you say, can’t pick and choose sins, why do most Christians not follow the laws in Leviticus? If God’s law is eternal (as Jesus said), if the rules of the OT apply today (as you say), and if God asks believers to be obedient and all sins are equal (as the bible says), then why can Christians cut their hair and eat lobster? Either the laws of the OT apply to Christians, or they don’t. Either God’s law is eternal, or some of God’s laws are only specific to a certain time and place. You can’t pick and choose, either.

    • Catie says:

      Adrienne, as a Bible Scholar I can assure you that Jesus said absolutely nothing about homosexuality being wrong. This is a frequently parroted talking point but has no actual merit in reality.

      • Bri says:

        What religion are you a scholar for and what bible are you reading? In mine it clearly states that he destroyed a city due to wickedness and homosexuality What Josh Duggar done is clearly a sin, and so is homosexuality the bible states that there is a woman for every man and a man for every woman. I’m floored at the amount of people that consider themselves Christians that are saying homosexuality is not wrong. Now don’t get me wrong I have homosexual friends and I love them to death, however it is wrong and they will have to answer to the Lord for their sins not me, same as abortions it’s wrong but that doesn’t make me dislike someone who had one. The point I’m trying to make here is that wrong is wrong and right is right the Duggars should not Sv throwing stones at the homosexuals with this skeleton in their closet bc his sin is punishable by the exact same punishment.

    • Jenny says:

      Adrienne…smoking, partying, pre-marital sex, not obeying the law, disrespecting your parents are all sins as well. Do you speak out about each one of those topics? You don’t get to pick and choose which sin is worse than another…and we are all sinners.

    • Sarah P says:

      I am not a Christian, but from my readings of the bible, Jesus never once mentioned homosexuality as a sin. Jesus was the most non-judgemental and chill person ever; he showed kindness and friendship to prostitutes and thieves, for instance. I doubt Jesus would have judged anyone for love, even of the same sex. I also find it interesting that people are so caught up in condemning homosexuality as sinful and immoral, when it isn’t even in the top 10 list of things not to do. Anyway, I just wanted to inform you that all the references to condemning homosexuality in the New Testament are not the word of God, but are entirely the opinions of Paul who wrote those texts.

      • Opal says:

        2 Timothy 3:16 – All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness…
        The Bible is a book given BY GOD through men to men. Not one scripture is an opinion of a man!

      • Opal says:

        Opal says: May 24, 2015 at 12:55 am
        2 Timothy 3:16 – All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness…
        The Bible is a book given BY GOD through men to men. Not one scripture is an opinion of a man!

      • Alison says:

        Jesus was nit a chill person. He is the very Son of God. He is the one who spoke this world into existence and you do not speak for Him. The Bible speaks for Him. The Bible was written, in Greek, hebrew and aramaic. Dont make the assumption that our english translations are the final authority.

      • Carrie says:

        Sarah P…… Bless you child. Can’t seem to get myself to understand how someone judges homosexuality, but stuffs their face each night with pork, or each morning with bacon. I myself believe in God and believe we will be saved from this hell one day. But, the Bible was written by men. Not God. There have been many items in the Bible that have been scientifically proven untrue. But there are some parts that God may have actually done, or said, whatever. I have no idea? But I know without blinking an eye, that God did not put his hand to pen and write the Bible therefore, no one truly knows how He feels about such topics. We only know what the author wrote. And the next author on the changes, and the next, each version rewritten over so many many many years ago. New Testament, Old Testament, translated versions, (decided meanings by the reader). So, uh. Why does everyone look at it as the holy grail? Homosexuality has been an issue one way or another since the beginning of time. Heterosexual males have always hatred hetero males so, I bet they did during the years of the writing of the bible. They are still hated by the hetero male so same stands still over 2000 years later. What about the forgiveness there?????? Christians??

        • Bug says:

          I would highly suggest you talk to a pastor about your view on who the Bible was ultimately written by. You can not pick and choose what scriptures you want to believe. It doesn’t work that way. You believe it all or you don’t.

          • Carrie says:

            Bug basically, you can believe what you like. I believe otherwise. It has been written and rewritten so many times. But ultimately, man wrote it. God would not descriminate. God loves everyone . The bible is full of descriminating passages. Man wrote what they wanted at the time written. If others believe it, that is their prerogative. I don’t.

          • Sarah says:

            Thank you for your comment. Trust, I have spoken to my pastor many times. We’ve had numerous conversations. You are incorrect, but you are free to believe whatever you’d like. Have a great night!

  11. Jenn says:

    I am also a survivor of sexual abuse from the age of 7 until I was about 15..I am 40+ yrs.old now and I too am appalled of the ” I am sorry I did a bad thing “What you have done Josh Duggar is committed an inexcusable crime. This is not about you..No matter how much counseling these young ladies get, the damage is done..The laws should be changed. Why is there a statute of limitations for such a heinous crime? I will never understand. As I end my comment my last thought is he now has children of his own.

    • Carrie says:

      Jenn, thank you so much. I agree. He wasn’t punished for several offenses of sexual misconduct. It also has nothing to do with Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. It is about a crime that went unpunished. And at least 5 girls being molested. That is the only thing that matters here.

  12. Jennifer says:

    I agree with everything you said wholeheartedly, except the statement about you doubting that Christ would forgive Josh Duggar. I believe that he is forgiven if he is truly sorry and confessed his sins to The Lord. That is the way Christ is. But I do think he has gotten away without punishment in this world, and even more importantly the girls who he hurt have gotten a lot less attention than they probably need.

  13. AMD says:

    OK, I’m about to mix the pot. My opinion and experience comes from being a victim of sexual abuse by 3 male relatives, being a mother of two children that were molested, and finally being a mother of a 14yr old boy who molested several younger female relatives. All you you passing judgement have no right. You have no idea the pain and agony. I really can’t put into words everything I want to say. For those of you who want to personally crucify Josh need to step back and remember he was 14. One opinion I agree with is most likely he was touched inappropriately at one point. I bet he had a lot of confusing sexual feelings and most likely just acted on them inappropriately because he wasn’t taught what to do. Out of the 5 younger relatives my son molested only one got therapy because of parental preference. I’m the one who reported my own son and because of his age there were no charges filed and I found an appropriate treatment program for him that he attended for a year and then returned home. Yes he is living with one of the children he molested, his younger sister. She received treatment herself. He took responsibility for what he did, received treatment, and has been home now for two years with no further incidents or betrayals. Do I believe my son is a future predator? No, absolutely not. Could he be? Yes but then so can your son or anyone’s child for that matter. My daughter is thriving and doing beautifully. I guess my whole point is don’t judge or base your assumption of this 14yr old’s future on his past mistakes. Personally I don’t care for the Dugger’s and their anal retentive beliefs. However I don’t blame them for not bringing this to the public back then because look at how you are prosecuting him now, think of how that 14 yr old would have felt. Their choice of treatment is that families business. Whether it worked or not is to be seen. Whether I chose the appropriate treatment for my son is to be seen. I did not post my name to protect my children’s privacy because they are still under the age of 18.

    • Sarah says:

      I just want to thank you so much for sharing your story. I think it’s important that we hear from people who have experienced this, from the other side.

    • Ben says:

      I don’t have a problem so much with him as person on this subject, because he was most likely abused. That’s for sure. What I have a problem with is the fact that his general attitude is not there. He is quoted as saying he knew if he continued down that road is would ruin his life. HIS. That’s not the sentiments of someone who is truly sorry. The biggest problem I have is with his parents. They knew their son had done something horrible, and they did not own up to it until after there would be no way to prosecute him. Should he have been prosecuted? Tough to say, because we don’t know the whole story on his end. Should his rehabilitation have been done with qualified psychiatric help and closely monitored rather than “hard work”? Yes. Should he have been removed from the presence of children? Double yep. That’s the thing that’s disturbing.

    • Carrie says:

      AMD. For your other child’s sake, you better hope so. But your family has a bigger problem you should figure out before ranting on this blog. Your entire family has committed crimes in the same fashion, as you stated. And seems to be a cycle. Your not facing reality if you think your daughter is safe.

    • M says:

      Thank you for this. People are so quick to jump to assumptions on all counts … because it’s easy to do from the safety of their computers. I don’t excuse the 14 year old’s actions, but I do think that people need to back off assuming they know what they would do in the parent’s situation. It is just not that simple.

  14. ana says:

    I don’t condone his actions. I’ve tried to educate myself on exactly what he did and all i find is him admitting to unexucesable acts. I don’t know the ages of the alleged victims. I don’t know if the girls were 8 or also 14. I don’t know if he forced himself on them or if because of their upbringing, he and the girls were overcome with horrible guilt. I have not heard about his sisters coming forward and admitting to these charges.

    Were his sisters the babies or the ones 1 or 2 years younger? Is that the media sensationalizing the story or is it factual?

    I don’t know those parts. I do know that boys do fondle girls. I can tell you from personal experience that 12 and 13 yr old boys will fondle a girl without her consent. i can tell you that older boys will do it as well. in fact many 5th and 6 th graders are having sex. Would that 12 yr old boy be charged with molestation if they were both experimenting? If they were both in thr same grade?

    If he molested his sisters, that’s incest. i don’t knownif there is a statute of limitation on that. Again, I am not sure any of them have come forward.

    The point being is that while I am not #teamJosh. I’m also not #teamcrucifyJosh. We need all the facts first before we can remder judgement and that is what I want to teach my children.

    • Sarah P says:

      The police report states that he molested 4 of the girls in his family, but not the eldest sister. That means that one of the girls he molested was the 5th oldest daughter, who would have been 4/5 years old in that time frame. Josh would have been 14/15.

      He was not a 12 or 13 year old just figuring out puberty. If his parents had ingrained in him any moral fibre or maturity, by 14 years old he should KNOW what he did was absolutely wrong and reprehensible. The police report details that the girls said he touched them as they were sleeping. If he knowingly waited until they were asleep, he had to known it was wrong for sure. 14 is young, but it’s not that young. It does not give him impunity for his actions.

    • James West says:

      I recommend you look up “incest” in a dictionary. We are not discussing this kind of event in the Duggar case. This is what happens when these situations are discussed. They gravitate to other issues that do no pertain to the case.

  15. Larry says:

    I have never seen the show myself. However, I am confused as to why everyone believes the statute of limitations has passed for this crime? In Arkansas, the statute of limitations for sexual offences against a minor (which is the appropriate application in this case from the facts I have seen) isn’t up until the victim turns 28 years old.

  16. Stacy Harris says:

    Sorry but there are a whole lot of assumptions going on here. The truth is you for I have NO idea how the Duggars handled this. You are going off of media reports that love to misrepresent. I abhor what Josh did and feel for the girls tremendously but I also feel for the parents. They are a a wonderful couple who have done their best to raise God fearing moral children. Its not their fault that Josh did something reprehensible. But he is still their son at the end of the day! What a horrible predicament. But we have a blame society that loves to judge! WWJD? I’m pretty sure Jesus has forgiven Josh and somehow I don’t think he’d encourage us all to disdain and hate Josh Duggar. Vengeance is not ours. The bible teaches us that ALL sin is the same in Gods eyes. I’d be careful how I judge others. Lastly, to those who show mercy, mercy will be shown.pray you are daughters don’t do something horrible someday and you are judged so harshly.

    • Youareconstant says:

      Thank you #Stacy Harris! Exactly what I was trying to say, such wise words. Please ladies and men who are posting here, stop looking for ways to pull other people down and instead lift them up to Christ in prayer. Asking God to give Michelle , Jim Bob, Josh, Anna, and the rest of the family wisdom and grace.

    • Lee says:

      I understand that all sin is sin in God’s eyes, but we live in a world with laws. God can forgive Josh, but he still broke the law, it should have been reported, and he should have received treatment based on a court system appointed program or at least something with more validity than a family friend and manual labor for s summer which was reported in the police report by Michelle Duggar.

      We do not know what mistakes our children will make in life, but we also can’t cover them up, especially when they are that big, but we can still love them and support them getting help.

      Also, I cannot imagine how his victims must have felt, and I hope that they can all find or have found a way to forgive and move forward with the lives, but I cannot imagine telling a victim that the molester is sorry and wants forgiveness, so just forgive because that’s what Jesus would do. I’m not saying they shouldn’t forgive, I just could not tell someone that.

      Also, it’s not my business, but the topic being brought up in the media, because the Duggar family chose to live their lives in the media, has made it an open discussion, and it might help others to realize that they should speak up or ask for therapy because of a situation that has happened to them. I’m not saying condemn Josh. Maybe at some point he received proper therapy, but parents have to be held accountable for ensuring the safety of their children, and ensuring to the best of their abilities the safety of others from their children. According to what the police report, they should have done more in my opinion, and people supporting them scares me, because does that mean that more parents are covering up abuse to protect their children? I had my wallet stolen as a minor by a minor. His parents asked me to press charges because they loved him and wanted him to understand consequences. I have no idea what had happened to him, but I always wonder if that moment helped him. His parents were trying.

    • Piper2 says:

      Go ahead and forgive, and by all means save judgement. I just wonder, how many of you would be willing to let him alone with your daughters?

    • EM says:

      It seems to me that everyone is very, very concerned about Josh and if he is being treated fairly. What about the girls? I’d love to see half as much concern for them as I see for Josh and his parents. What about the sisters that had to live with an abuser who they know their parents would not turn over to the police? Yes, all the reports say that the victims forgave him. What choice would a young girl in this situation really have? Does anyone really, honestly believe that any one of these girls was able to say “Actually, I am still hurt and angry. I am not ready to forgive him yet, and I do not wish to live in the same household.” Look up the materials that the pastor the Duggars follow has for dealing with sexual abuse. It is all about victim blaming and helping the victim to see that not forgiving is worse than the assault. And what about the fact that, knowing this, and knowing that this would eventually come out, the Duggars–the adults–chose to put their lives on TV. They chose to become spokespeople for their interpretations of sexual mortality. The final piece of autonomy that these victims had–controlling who/when someone would know of their abuse–was stripped away from them the second their parents decided to pursue a life in the limelight and become the poster family for conservative sexual morality. They had to know this would eventually surface, and they took that risk. IT wasn’t their risk to take. Shame on them.

  17. melissa says:

    Being a mother of a child that was sexually abused by a family member at a very young age there is no overlooking period. I have had my child in therapy since few months after it happened when child came out with it n we reported it and 5 years later I still have him in treatment. He has been diagnosed with PTS post tramatic stress disorder is on meds for it and is still a daily battle struggle heart break of what he went thru. Childs perpetrator is incarcerated for 15 plus years and has been since day my child told us n we reported the crime. So Idc what the Duggar family says these girls may forgive but will NEVER EVER FOR GET EVER. And no therapy or very ltl therapy or counseling is even worse for the victims and yes these kids are victims. I just pray that these young ladies now that they are old enough will step out and seek the help they need to have a healthy life and healthy self esteem about theirselves and a successful relationship with their husbands. God just please guide these ladies and give them.rhe strength for them to get thru this because now the media has gotten a hold of this story these young ladies are once again victims. God bless ypu all and thank you for the opinion totally agree n couldn’t of said better myself very well said n explained

  18. Gerri says:

    We as parents, do our best to raise our children up with love, morals, respect and dignity. We cannot control how they will turn out or who they are. Yes, what Josh did wasn’t right, but neither is it any of our business. If the family, Josh and the girls are handling this then who are we to say anything? Unless the girls beseech the public for help for rectification, then this should not be flooding the media. Not every case is the same, everyone handles things differently. We simply don’t know enough yet to say whether or not the girls are psychologically damaged.

    • Lee says:

      I think what he did was a crime. It should have been reported, and proper treatment sought out for him. I don’t think it’s a public issue, but since the family chose to be in the public eye, unfortunately for them, this is the media they will ultimate get. I do think it brings up an important issue of molestation being a crime and getting real help no matter the age of the molester.

    • Carrie says:

      Gerri, whether they are psycologically damaged is irrelevant. It is a crime and he should be punished. I bet if it was your daughter you wouldn’t have this same position.

  19. hey says:

    I disagree with your thoughts on this. You said you were a Christian but refuse to forgive yet your heavenly father died on a cross for the sole purpose of forgiving our sins. We are ALL sinners and the bible says no sin is larger than another. What a sad world to live in where we refuse to forgive people. A pastor friend of mine said his congregation struggled with a man who joined their church but had spent time in prison for murder. The people said, “BUT HE MURDERED SOMEONE!!” The pastor reminded them that he asked God to come into his life, forgive him and had changed his life completely so if we want to call ourselves Christians, we must do the same. If we refuse…then drop the Christian title. I have spent many years working with youth. You would be shocked to know that a large majority of teen boys have fondled their sisters or other family members. Is it right? NOPE but it is WAY more common than you would want to believe. SO grateful that God forgives us instantly since many so called Christians refuse to…..and then we wonder why people don’t want to be around Christians.

    • EM says:

      I am not sure what youth you are working with, but it is absolutely not true that “a large majority of teen boys have fondled their sisters or other family members.” Maybe if you are working with a population that is dealing with abuse/trauma/mental health problems, but in as someone who works with youth, I can assure you that your statement is NOT reflective of the general population.

    • Sarah P says:

      Yes. At least 5 victims, at least 4 of them his sisters. At least one of them was 4 years old at the time.

      ^From the police report

  20. Norine Britton says:

    Actually the statements in your blog are not accurate. The police reports state that josh told his parents after the incidences. Jim bob went to authorities right when josh confessed. The authories suggested counceling and talking with the parents. The police report also states it was a single occurance and the girls were asleep and never knew it happened until Michelle and jimbob had them sit down to talk about it. All involved were okay with counceling that was provided as well as peer support through their church. They all handled it the way they all felt comfortable with. That includes parents of the three girls. The report never states these girls were preschool aged. Says they were of peer age. And he was 14. It wasn’t till a letter was found in an old book that cps was called years later. But authorities had already been notified when it happened. They weren’t trying to protect anyone. They were only trying to do what was right. As a society we have no clue what happened. We don’t know all that happened and all they went through. And I seriously doubt it ever happened again and I doubt his children are in any kind of danger. He was also not saved when this happened. He stated he sought Christ and asked forgiveness and started to live a life for Christ. As a Christian I am thankful Christ forgives us. And he will face his own judgement with God.

    • Carrie says:

      You need to read the report again. Your info is incorrect. Father didn’t take him to police until statute of limitations had passed. Over a year AFTER Josh told him. Sounds like trying to keep it covered up to me. Also. Not peers, most were his own SISTERS! Check you info before slamming someone else for it.

    • kia says:

      I read all 33 pages and you are not correct. Jim Bob found out about the molestation in March of 2002. He talked to Josh and that was it. March of 2003 Jim Bob and Michelle found out he molested more girls. They took him to the church elders who suggested a treatment center program. The Duggar’s didn’t want Josh to meet “real” offenders so they sent him to a family friend where he did hard labor on a house remodel from March 2003 to July 2003. When he came back they took him to a police officer that was also a family friend. This police officer didn’t make a report. He gave Josh a stern talking too and that was it. Josh returned home and all was forgotten until someone tipped off Oprah in 2006 and a real investigation was performed. However the statute of limitations expired and no charges were filed. Important to note the cop that talked to Josh is in jail for 56 years for child pornography.

      All this information can be found in the police report posted on in touch website.

  21. maggs says:

    Just a couple of questions. Where did you get your information regarding when the crimes were committed and when they were reported. I had heard that the father had walked in on it and hauled his son into the police station.

    This story has so many different versions, that I don’t know what to take as truth and what is being speculated about, out loud, which then becomes the “facts”

  22. settingitstraight says:

    Congrats on proving you are Christian in name only. Perhaps you didn’t know that God’s grace is sufficient for everyone. Grace is a magnificent word. It literally means “forgiveness, where forgiveness is not warrented or deserved.” So your little blurb about how Jesus wouldn’t just say “your forgiven” is pure sillieness. And even more wonderful than that, is when you ask him for grace, not only will he forgive you, he forgets about it completely! So if at 14 you were perfect, please feel free to stone the heck out of young Mr. Duggar.

    God bless

    • Sweetlilyou says:

      Actually, had you read my edit at the end of the post, you’d see that I do believe we are all saved through faith. As I’ve mentioned in other comments, I don’t even believe in hell, as I don’t believe that god is a vengeful, punisher. I feel he’ll is created here on Earth.
      Sweetlilyou recently posted…Why This Mom WIll NOT Support Josh DuggarMy Profile

      • Donna says:

        You can’t read and believe the Bible without believing in hell. As Christians we can’t pick and choose what we like from God’s word and what we don’t. If you believe Jesus saved you, what did He save you from? He is not willing that any should perish (that means hell) but that all should repent and have eternal life with Him.

      • Opal says:

        Greek word for Hades- strongs # G86 means underworld, grave, hell, pit- mentioned 10 times in the Bible.
        Hebrew word for Sheol- H7585- means the same- mentioned 67 times.
        There is clearly hell and if it was being here on earth then according to Rev. 20:14 we will all be thrown into the lake of fire for the second death.

      • B. says:

        You can’t possibly be a Christian without believing in hell and Satan. To deny their existence is to deny the Bible is true. And if there were no hell, what could you possibly be saved from? Where do people go who are separated eternally from God??

        • EM says:

          The Pope doesn’t believe in hell. He says it’s a metaphor for living without the love of God. Many churches have accepted this stance. No one can tell someone else if they are/are not a Christian. If someone believes that Jesus is the divine son of God and that faith in Jesus is the path to eternal salvation, they are a Christian. No one else gets to make that determination for them.

          • B. says:

            When I said “you can’t possibly be a Christian without believing in hell” that was a generalized statement, and intended to mean, “One can’t possibly be…” And if there is life after death, and Christians believe there is, where do those who are eternally separated from God’s love go?? That is the definition of hell. As far as your definition of Christian, I’m not sure that’s entirely correct. Becoming a Christian is to believe that we are all sinners who fall short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23), that the wages of our sins is death (separation from God) but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ (Rom 6:23), and that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins, and only by God’s grace are we saved. To be a Christian means that you literally allow Jesus to live in you (I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live but Christ lives in me. Gal 2:20). If you don’t believe in hell, then what would be the point of becoming a Christian? What would you need salvation from?

    • Ben says:

      OMG. That’s what you focus on? That was pure hyperbole to illustrate her disgust with what the guy did. Being a Christian doesn’t give you a pass! Being a Christian simply means that you believe in Christ. Guess what? Lots of super bad people now and throughout history believe in Christ. It means nothing.

  23. Donna says:

    What he did was wrong. I do take issue though with your list of teenage “wrongs” as if all of those you mention are somehow not big deals.They all are wrong. They all are sin. If everything teenagers did was posted in a list with names attached I daresay many, many of us would be embarrassed and ashamed. He has owned up to his sin, repented and asked for forgiveness from those he’s hurt. You are right, it isn’t up to us to forgive him, and neither is it our place to condemn. Let God do the judging. We must protect our children though. I found information from “Children of the Son” to be very enlightening and helpful.
    .

  24. Annette Y says:

    You state it is normal for a teen to take Dad’s car without permission and the difference is that what Josh Duggar did is a crime. Since when is stealing a car not a crime? While you address sexually repressed home you ignore the fact kids are controlled by parents to the degree parents can end up in jail as responsible for their kids behavior. The failure 100% belongs to the parents. Parental failures drive kids to commit these types of crimes. Not just the sexually repressed household but the lack of being exposed to kids his own age at school. Homeschoolers are creepy to me because I wonder why they hide from the world, what horrible secrets are they trying to keep from public view?

    • Keith says:

      oh Annette, you are quite judgmental, how about this, most kids are cruel and creepy in some way. Sure, public school is full of well adjusted kids that say yes ma’am and never do anything wrong…you’re crazy.

  25. EM says:

    I also think it’s worth pointing out that the Duggars went on TV after these incidences of incentual molestation. This means they decided to put their family on the public stage knowing full well that the abuse suffered by four of their daughters could very possibly make national headlines. This, to me, is so reckless and unfair. Josh Duggar’s victims may have been able to forgive him, but to have the details of their abuse known and exposed and discussed in households nationwide in a way over which they have no control whatsoever is a terrible violation. This is a HUGE red flag about how the parents handled the situation, and sows doubt that their daughters ever got the support to which they were entilited.

  26. Evelyn F. says:

    Very well said! Thank you! I was a victim as a child, it leaves scars that last a lifetime. There should not be a statue of limitations on a crimes against children.

  27. Brittany says:

    Although we may be forgiven of the sins we commit, we still have to deal with the consequences of our actions. The timing of Duggar’s admission to this crime suggests he was merely trying to avoid consequences rather than take responsibility for them, which does not sound like a truly penitent person.

  28. Dianna says:

    I think people are way to harsh in judgement of others sins!!! Your own sins may not seem this sever, but to others they may be. We are all sinners no matter what! Let’s leave our harsh judgment up to our maker.
    Although, this has never happened in my family, what would you do differently if you discovered that your 12 year old son had done this. Would you really drive him to jail. Really people think about how you would have acted. It’s sad and painful to think about. None of you can say for sure how you would act. Again let’s leave the judging for God and simply pray for everyone involved.

    • Lee says:

      I would have gone to the police or a licensed professional to ask what I should do to get him real help.

      God can judge the sin, but we have laws, police, courts, judges, juries, etc in the USA to deal with crime. It was a crime.

  29. missy says:

    We are all under the impression here that 1.some sins are cleaner or dirtier than others and 2.these girls let this guy define who they are by staying victims.
    see, nothing excuses what he did. What is there is forgiveness – by God and by his victims. Who are we to judge that??
    I absolutely liken this to homosexuality, beastiality, rape. Unfortunately our world has defined some sin as perfectly okay, while others are unforgivable to us humans. Homosexuality and beastiality should be very disturbing to humans!!!! All sin is separation from God. Sin is sin is sin, and God can forgive it all.
    Josh is feeling the repercussions for his sins, as he should. Wrong and hurt has been done to too many. As a victim of attacks by my own brother, which was completely ignored by my parents (he 15, while I was 10), I understand both sides. Justice demanded, forgiveness freeing me as a victim.

    • Lee says:

      I am a Christian. I do not care that what he did was a sin. I care that what he did hurt someone. It’s a crime.

      Homosexuality & pre-martial sex are not crimes. They not hurt others.

      I am sorry that you had such an awful thing happen to you and with support. I am glad that you found a way to forgive.

      • Lee says:

        I had some typos and can’t seem to edit it, so–Homosexuality and pre-martial sex DO NOT hurt others.

        And I’m sorry that you did NOT have support when you were a victim.

  30. tammie says:

    As a child I was molested starting at age 4..… so why aren’t the
    Parents of theses girls filing charges. Me personal. Think they should cut his manhood off and cram it up his backside. They don’t magical change, he will always be a child molester. This family is suppose to be christians.. Really.,I don’t want them as roll models for my family..

    • Carrie says:

      Woman of reason… Thank you. I am 100 % behind you. Also, the parents? Same as the molesters. 4 of the 5 girls were his sisters. Nice huh?

  31. Gus says:

    Very well said, and I completely agree. In this debate, sadly, the girls are the ones that are being overlooked… Everyone’s trying to “win the argument” about if or to what extent Josh is guilty. Or the Dad. The fact that some are bringing up “Josh’s life is ruined” while never considering these girls is disgusting.

    This situation is just another microcosm of our society in general, regarding the disposition towards Women. Women had to fight for the right to vote, fight for equal rights, they’re still fighting for equal pay… I mean, hell, we have a Congress that can’t even agree on “Violence against Women” legislation.

    Now, it’s pretty clear that this family that Jim Bob Duggar “leads” has more extreme ideals towards Women than most; but the fact remains that at some level the same disposition exists throughout the rest of society.

    Until us Men are held accountable for this faulted disposition, and until we start teaching our younger men and boys… that Girls/Women *are* equals, and should be respected and treated as such… sadly, I don’t believe things will change. I believe society as a whole has made some progress, but there is still much more work (changing of thinking) to be done.

    • Carrie says:

      Gus, very well said… The girls aren’t even part of or important on most of these comments. Very sad and disheartening. Violators seem to have some rights to forgiveness , but the violated are just forgotten. Way to Sad.
      Thank you.

  32. carla says:

    They keep saying the girls received counseling, however, after reading the police reports, I highly doubt that is the truth. Most of the girls said they didn’t really remember what happened. If they had received counseling as a victim, they would have remembered.
    Also remember, boys can also be victims. After experiencing something similar in more recent years, the police, professional therapists (sex offender therapists) and others involved all see this situation as boys will be boys! I absolutely do not agree!!!

  33. Jennie says:

    Pedophelia – soon to be the next hurdle of pushy demanding alternative life styles! California has already reclassified pedophelia as not a sickness but an alternative sexual orientation! Get ready for a new battle in the next few years as the liberal sickos destroy the protection of children for another bully special interest group who demands respect because they think they were “born this way”!

    • Em says:

      You are mistakenly applying the way you divide up right and wrong sex to the way liberals define right and wrong sex. For a social conservative, sex is divided up like this:

      – Right: Martial heterosexual sex

      – Wrong: Everything else: Pre-marital sex, homosexual sex, rape outside of marriage, pedeophilia, beatiality, extra-marital sex, unmarried polyamory

      – Gray Area (these types of sex are marital and accepted in the Bible, but are generally not accepted by social conservatives): Rape within a marriage, child marriage, Polygamy

      So to you, pedophilia, premarital sex, and homosexual sex are in the same category, so it stands to reason that one who supports legalized premarital sex also supports legalized pedophilia. The problem with your logic is that liberals do not define right and wrong sex based on marriage. They define it based on consent. So, for a social liberal, it divides up like this:

      – Right: All sex between consenting adults–marital and pre-marital; heterosexual and homosexual; monogamy and polyamory

      – Wrong: All sex with someone who did not or cannot consent: All rape (regardless of marital status), pedophilia, beastiality, child marriage

      – Gray Areas (While these types of sex are consensual, many social liberals are still opposed to them): extra-marital affairs if a spouse is unaware that their partner is “cheating” and did not consent to polyamory; polygamy, based on stereotypes of coersion.

      This is why we can’t use our own views to determine what someone else thinks is right and wrong. Saying that liberals accept pedophilia is like saying conservatives accept forced child marriage. We divide things up into different boxes, so we can’t assert that someone else who accepts one thing in our “wrong” box must thereby accept everything is our “wrong” box. It’s like saying “My favorite colors are green and red. You don’t like red so you must also hate green.” It’s illogical and wrong.

  34. Gayle says:

    Just two words. Thank you! Your words state my feelings so well. I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse that went on until, at the age of just 17, I left home and lived on my own.
    I have forgiven him. But the wounds are life long. The pain NEVER goes away and I am now 58. My abuser also was “familiar ” and went without any consequences.

  35. Sunshine says:

    Did you ever think that we, as a society, are breeding people like this? If you make a person famous because they are odd, dysfunctional, and have 19 kids, then you are contributing to a community that produces sick people.
    I realize that people like this have existed for a long time, but we perpetuate the madness by making them celebrities.

  36. LR says:

    While I am not hear to argue support for him I do feel compelled to correct you on one thing. You said Jesus wouldn’t say “Hey guys, let’s give this guy a break! We all sin!! You’re forgiven!” and claim you could share bible verses that supported that comment. You are wrong, and you have not read your bible. Josh asked for forgiveness not only from his victims and family but also from God so therefore Jesus 100% positively would say that. That is backed up in the bible.”If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9 I could list a bunch more but for the sake of time that one should suffice.

    • Ben says:

      If you read that comment in context, you will see that it was simply a way to illustrate how heinous this was. By the by, I’m pretty sure you have to be sincere when you ask Jesus for forgiveness, and nothing about his statement showed that he was truly sorry. In his statement he actually said that he knew continuing down that path would damage HIS future. So yeah. I don’t think so…

  37. Kristi says:

    My question is this….what do we want to happen? What needs to be done to make all the haters happy? I agree it was very wrong and the poor girls need major counseling and help to get thru the hurt. Not sure what we want done all these years later to Josh! Should he be locked up now? Should he be torn from his wife and kids???

    • EM says:

      What I want is for the Duggars, Josh included, to stop publicly condemning other Americans for their consensual, adult sexual relationships. They have many times, including Josh, explicitly and implicitly connected homosexuality to pedophilia. They have taken active steps to promote public policy that is based on their specific, religious ideas about sexual morality. And then it turns out that Josh himself committed numerous acts of incest and pedophilia? Everyone says that he who is without sin should cast the first stone. That should apply to the Duggars.

      • B. says:

        What he did was not pedophilia since he was still a child himself. Pedophilia is attraction toward a child from an adult (age 16 and up). At 14, he was still a child himself.

        What he did was not incest, as he never penetrated the girls–only touched them inappropriately.

        What he did was awful and terrible and despicable, but I would say he clearly did not realize the gravity of his poor choices, as most 14 year olds are not apt to do when making poor choices. Acting on an impulse without thought or regard to others involved or the consequences of the behavior–that is what he did.

  38. carmen says:

    True christians forgive and do not judge! I hate how so called Christians preach verses and stuff from the bilble bit leave out forgivness and and judging!!!

    • EM says:

      I hope there are just as many Christians telling that to the Duggars as there are Christians telling that to those upset about how the Duggars handled this. When they publicly condemn consensual, adult sexual relationships and promote public policy that is based on their own personal, religious ideas of sexual morality, that is somehow them being “good Christians,” but when anyone critiques them for their handling of incest and pedophilia and abuse in their own household, it’s suddenly unfair.

  39. Kristi M says:

    I worked for Missouri Children’s and I worked child abuse and child neglect investigations for 19 years. It is imperative for victims and perpetrators get counseling. Frequently perpetrators were sexually abused themselves. But that is meant to be an excuse. There are no excuses. I am appalled hearing the attitudes of he and his parents. Forgiveness is a wonderful thing but making sure that the victims and the perpetrator get the counseling they need and they need to understand that what occurred was a crime..

  40. Alice says:

    My question to you is “What if this were your son? Would you sit there and crucify him or would you try to get him help and forgive and love him through this situation. This is a veryhorrible thing that he did and he has said it was. And the media has dug it up and made such a stir that the poor girls who had forgiven Josh and moved on are probably having to re live this now thanks to the media. I just can’t believe that Christians are caving into the media and our society who is so quick to crucify christians for anything they do wrong. I totally disagree with you. I think Jesus would treat this just like he did Mary Magdalene. Everyone can be forgiven and receive the grace of Christ as some who have been molested have said. Where is grace in this world anymore? Christians bashing other Christians. I stand behin Josh Duggar and were his parents perfect? Heck no they weren’t but until something like this happens to you would you really know how you would act. I stand on the side of a loving God who says to forgive seventy times seven and gives grace to a sinful world including all of us who sin as Christians. If you have sinned today then The Lord doesn’t look at your sin as any less than what JOsh did. A sin is a sin.

    • Carrie says:

      Alice, the “poor girls” you refer to were his “SISTERS” how could they just go on and forget when they are constantly having to be together? Via family and their show. Secondly, being his sisters, I am sure due to media, the Duggar parents probably made them say that as to not get show canceled or get him sent to jail. Parents have a way to make their kids say what they want. Also, yes anyone can be forgiven by God, but only if they repent. All he has done is give a short apology that sounded more like he only did to save himself. He was worried about his future not theirs. Furthermore, on the Bible, the Bible was written by MAN not God, not Jesus. How do you even know GOD had anything to do with what is written? Everyone just assumes it. Just like all Christians assumes GOD will forgive ALL sins. I don’t believe someone who stole a piece of candy at a store would be considered the same sin on levels as someone molesting children in Gods eyes. You can all preach God and forgiveness, but in reality, no one truly knows what God thinks of a molester and whether he would forgive as easily as a child who stole candy. I am so sick of hearing the Bible says so because MAN wrote it. If God wrote it, I would believe, but he didn’t. So everyone needs to realize the mental anguish that sexual assault leaves behind for the victim and stop trying to protect the abuser.

  41. Crystal says:

    Please excuse my ignorance in all things digger related… My question is… These were Juvenile records… Juvenile records are sealed… How is it that there’s such detailed information about the events… I understand Josh Dugger has admitted wrongdoing, but acting inexcusably for what exactly?… Did he outright say I molested my baby sisters and extremely young children?… Where has this information come from?… I can’t comment on such things if I don’t have proper information… I have yet to see specific allegations in anything I’ve read on the topic… Things I’ve seen and read are somewhat vague… And led me to believe he was at some underage sleepover where a bunch of underage kids made bad decisions and he’s taking the wrap… I don’t want to judge… It’s not my job… If it was severely young girls and his sisters and was most definitely child molestation then why wasn’t he removed from the Dugger home… Some kind of juvenile rehabilitation or detention center?… How is he not supervised with his own children?… I just have a lot of unanswered questions before I jump to conclusions and would like to know where everyone is getting such detailed information about juvenile records that are to be sealed?…

  42. Kat says:

    How is it not your job as a Christian to forgive?! As christians we are called to be Christ – like, therefore to forgive as Christ forgave us. You tread lightly on the lines on Christianity and it’s hard to believe you write from the perspective of a Christian in this article.

  43. B. says:

    i just want to address some of the statements you have here–first, the parents took Josh to a police officer long before the statute of limitations ran out. The officer did not file a report. And how would they have known this cop would eventually be arrested? Surely, you can’t believe that his parents knew something about this cop that others did not. Second, until one of our own children hurts another of our children, we cannot possibly imagine how we will react. I have 2 boys and 1 daughter, who is the youngest. If God forbid, one of my boys touched her inappropriately, the last thing I would do is march my son down to the police station and have him arrested. Yet, millions are vilifying the Duggars for not doing exactly that. We can’t possibly know how they attempted to handle the situation because the only details are scant in the police report. It was horrible what he did–but dragging it all through the public eye has likely been far more difficult for all these girls who are adults now, than the initial trauma was. As far as Jesus–well, there’s a story in the Bible where a woman–a horrible sinful woman–was thrust at Jesus, and the people accused her of terrible crimes and said she must be stoned. Does that sound familiar? And Jesus, in his infinite wisdom, says you who is without sin, throw the first stone. Back then, when no one had the conscience to deny their own sin and kill her, Jesus told her to go and sin no more. And just like that, she was forgiven. Clean and made new. Her sons were thrown as far as the east is from the west. Like it or not, If God can wash away Josh’s dispicable choices, then who are we to throw proverbial stones at him now?!? This doesn’t cast aside the girls or minimize what they have endured, but clearly they have forgiven him and moved on. So why can’t you?

  44. Believe says:

    GOD will judge just as you judge others. You say your a Christian but don’t act like it. I have watched the Duggers since it started as 18 kids and Counting, I love this show, it might be extreme with being a Christian but that is their view on ho GOD wants them to dress and act, just like how there are many different church’s out there. This was when Josh was 14, they grew up the way they are now so they wouldn’t fully understand what was going on, now they probably know more of what went on but not fully, they don’t have Internet, television or magazines they can read and watch on television the realities that we all know. If I had the chance I would still want to meet every single person that is in the family and the people behind the scenes. They are a blessing to this world, so is everyone in this world, GOD put us all here for a reason, and NO ONE should question the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, GOD.

  45. Ned says:

    Another sad aspect of this is there is a 100% chance that Josh himself was molested. That is how these cycles perpetuate. The man committed a crime though, and needs to face real consequences.

    • Jen says:

      I’m sorry. I’ve kept my mouth shut at what has become a ridiculous conversation about religion (not faith) and Biblical understanding, not to mention homosexuality and a woman cutting her hair. These things are entirely unrelated to Sarah’s post. This has been taken way too far and way down a rabbit trail. Please stop jumping on each other, especially as you speak about forgiveness and showing God’s love. Please, just stop!

      That said, I cannot keep quiet about the comment that there is a “100% chance that Josh himself was molested.” Ned, I was molested. I am NOT a molester. That is a fact, an opinion or meant to provoke an argument.

  46. Em says:

    People say they are “concerned for the victims”. Then stop talking/writing/reporting about it!!! After 12 years these poor girls may have been able to experience some sort of healing to move past it!! Every time a tabloid splashes it, the news reports it, these poor victims are forced to relive this nightmare!!! Stop it!!!!

  47. Fyn's Mom says:

    i first want to say I think it’s very important to have facts correct before putting them on ones website. I just looked it up & the statute of limitations in Arkansas on sexual abuse is 7 years, not 3. Which means the “crime” was reported in plenty of time. Second since we don’t know which sisters were abused we cannot claim to know their ages at the time, especially not enough to claim they were preschoolers at the time. I have a son who was a preschooler when he was sexually assaulted by his 17 year old uncle. That is a crime. A crime that was never prosecuted because once my child told me & the doctor, he would speak to no one else. As a family, with the guidance of his therapist, we decided after 2 years of trying to get him to talk that his mental health was most important & we changed our therapy tactic. He is healing so well it makes me smile everyday at the beautiful person he has become in spite of this heinous situation. In 12 years I hope no one comes to him & asks him to pull all those memories to the front of his brain. It’s not worth it!!!
    No one has accused Josh Duggar of anything similar to these events since, which means he was most likely a stupid hormonal teenage boy who did something horrible but it does not make him a child molester. And it certainly does not mean that these beautiful young woman (some of whom are probably married now) deserve to have these events broadcast all over the world so that people who hate the Duggar family for whatever reason can say “see we told you no one is perfect”!
    Never once have I heard this family call themselves perfect. Never once in 10 years have I watched them try to shove their specific religion or believes down my throat. They live their lives, the cameras watch & the people enjoy. They are good people who despite the pressure of our oh so imperfect society, don’t give in. They live their convictions. And I love them for it.
    By putting this out there all the media has done is revictimize these girls & add 30 plus other victims. Cause let’s not forget this man has 3 children with a fourth on the way. And now no income to support them. Please tell me what those beautiful babies did to deserve this! Think about that before you go off spewing incorrect facts. You aren’t just punishing him now, you are punishing this whole family, which has the title says is 19 kids & counting, not 1!!!

    • EM says:

      At the time, the statute of limitations was 3 years. It may be 7 years now, but it was 3 at the time. If the 17 year old who had abused your son told you about it, and it happened many times over a course of a year, would you keep your son around that 17 year old? I doubt it. Hundreds of millions of hormonal teenagers don’t fondle younger siblings. To pass this off as “hormones” is inaccurate. As for saying they are perfect, the Duggars have no problem condemning and speaking out against the sexual behaviors of other consenting adults (not a crime), so when we hear that one of their own did commit a sex crime, it is hard not to be offended that they would so easily condemn others for sexual activities that are not crimes.

  48. Dianne Linebarger says:

    Thank so much for your article. You spoke words that I could not find without getting so upset over the whole situation. I shamed a commenter on a local TVs FB for saying ” why is everyone so upset, he didn’t rape them”. I was sickened by her comment. He is a monster, was a monster and needs lots therapy to resolve this, if it can be.

  49. Sunny says:

    It’s not about how bad a thing he did. It’s about getting past it. If God Himself can forgive even the sickest sin, what makes you better than God that you can sit there and refuse forgiveness for someone you don’t even know? If he’s still sick then he needs to be dealt with, but that’s not your place to decide that. Don’t let him sit your kids. That’s about the only thing you can do from here. I’m sorry you have so much hate and darkness in your heart that other people’s past mistakes would cause you to write a whole post on this. Christ said over and over again that if we do not forgive, we will not be forgiven. Gonna be a lot of confused faces in hell because of that fact. Better make sure you are not one of them and trash this pathetic post. When you do these things you are not accomplishing anything but hurting the victims and furthering their pain. Congratulations. You must be proud.

  50. Brenda says:

    while I agree with you, please do not be under the misconception that most of the innocent teenage mistakes are not crimes. They are. Taking your mom/dad’s car with out permission is auto theft which is a felony offense. Put alcohol at that party and it’s drinking underage and providing alcohol to minors. Which can put mom and dad, teenager and a few others in trouble with the law/child services. All of the innocent teenage mistakes can land junior or baby girl on a juvenile probation officers case load. And if a repeat offender, the kid can get a nice piece of ankle jewelry.
    With that said, Josh Dugger should have gotten sent to a rehabilitation center, NOT to work for a friend. God is strong, but humans are week.

  51. Teresa says:

    I believe that the Duggar family did try and keep this to themselves. They don’t need to do their show.

  52. Jessica says:

    I love your article maybe his victims won’t be forever wounded but it changes them forever. It will affect their relationships in the future. I know this from personal experience, forgiveness is totally possible but every action has a consequence and until now it seems like he has been given a pretty easy out.

  53. Alice says:

    Carrrie, How about checking your facts. The Bible was written by God. The men who wrote the different chapters were words that they heard from and were God-inspired. So I would suggest before you say that the Bible was written by man then you need to read it and find out that it was the word of God and it says so in the Bible. Also you and many others never answered my question. What would you do if this were your Son. You can throw stones at the parents all you want to, but until you are in that situation, you might not know what you would do. So think about that and no family is immune from this.Have a blessed night.

    • EM says:

      The idea that the Bible was written by God is, strictly speaking, a belief, not a fact. It may be a belief that you believe to be true, which is fine. But that doesn’t make it a fact Facts are objectively provable with observable, repeatable evidence. The fact that, at sea level, water boils at 100 degrees C is a fact. Tenets of faith, like the beliefs that the Bible is the unadulterated word of God are, by definition, not able to be objectively proved. That is why those who believe are called to have faith.

      • Opal says:

        How can this be strictly stating a belief when it is written in the word of God…you can not take this out of the Bible it is there…again…
        2 Timothy 3:16 – All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness…
        The Bible is a book given BY GOD through men to men. Not one scripture is an opinion of a man!

    • Carrie says:

      Alice, the Bible was WRITTEN by man. You can believe God told them what to write if that makes you happy. But prove it. Just because it says do don’t make it so. Have you ever heard a news cast that wasn’t true? Or read something in a paper that wasn’t true? Man/civilization lies. It is a fact. So, man writes it. Wants everyone to believe it. Hmmm I will write that God said so. And it worked. That doesn’t make it true. Check the writers on the book inside cover. Oops… Not God. I do not doubt or have any problem with your belief of such. We have always been TOLD that. Still doesn’t make it true.

    • Carrie says:

      Alice, also to answer your question, yes, I would drive him straight to the police station if he molested a child. No doubts in my mind. I have driven my daughter to police for committing a crime with less importance than this. No one is above the law. Or at least isn’t supposed to be. But crime is crime. If you play, you should have to pay . Especially when you hurt someone else.

  54. EM says:

    I hope that every single person on here who has stated that is it the job of Christians to abstain from judgement of the Duggars will also take the time to send that message to the Duggars. The Duggars have made themselves the poster family of conservative sexual morality. They–including Michelle, Jim Bob, and Josh–have publicly condemned and ridiculed consensual, same sex relationships between adults who are under no obligation to follow the same religion as the Duggars. They have explicitly and implicitly linked homosexuality to abuse, incest, and pedophilia. If the Duggars private, family life and the biblical sins they may or not have committed are none of our business, then the same courtesy should be extended to every fellow American by every fellow American. What makes the Duggars so special that they are allowed to condemn, but then must be free from all condemnation? If someone isn’t hurting them, then the Duggars should also mind their own business and leave the judgement up to God.

    • Mary says:

      Exactly. Why are we putting people these people on a pedistool? Why doesn’t anyone have a problem with them teaching their daughters that they are breeding stock and need to do nothing but birth babies? None of them have gone on to careers. It’s be a midwife or just stay at home. Either way make sure you have as many babies as physically possible. And they believe God punished Michelle for taking birth control by killing her baby. What kind of message is that? These people are crazy and dangerous.

  55. Nicole Biette says:

    I agree 100% that this is NOT ok. Particularly because of what you said about his last statement. He was talking about HIS life, not the lives of the girls he hurt. The one issue I take with your argument is of teenage mistakes vs. crime. All of the mistakes you listed are, in fact, crimes. Taking the car without permission is larceny. Attending or hosting a party as a teen probably involves underage drinking. Also, you have to be 18 to get a tattoo without parental consent. In my opinion, that makes it sound like molesting his sisters WAS no different than any common teenage mistake, which, I think we both agree, Duggar’s was not.

  56. Stacey says:

    I must say Lol some parts had me laughing LOVED your post you sound like a down to earth person and I agree with you 100% take care and God bless

  57. Amamda says:

    Thank you for this. I Don’t follow this family, but I’m curious about weather one of Jim Bob’s grown daughters has ever gone against their father’s wishes and had a sexual relationship before getting married? I wonder how that situation would be handled compared to how they handled their son’s actions?

  58. Maggie says:

    I agree with this 100%, however this isn’t just limited to girls. If my son comes to me with any injustice like what went on in the Dugger’s household I will never stop fighting for him either.

  59. Kim says:

    One thing you said in your last comments, referencing other comments, was, “I don’t think we as a society should be so quick to just say “Forgive and forget” in situations such as this, because while it teaches forgiveness, it also ignores the greater impact on women and girls.” – See more at: http://sweetlilyou.com/why-this-mom-will-not-support-josh-duggar/#sthash.Hqo7KOmx.dpuf
    I think we as a society SHOULD forgive because that is what Christ asks us to do however, we’ve all had to forgive our children for the wrong they do, and as parents we always will and always should forgive them, but our forgiveness does not exonerate them. There are still consequences for those actions regardless of how much I love them or how sorry they may be. God love’s and forgives us as well, but there are still consequences for bad decisions and actions. So, forgiveness, yes absolutely, consequences must follow though.

  60. Anonymous says:

    I can assure all of you that it is quite possible to do things to little kids as a teenager and while knowing it is wrong, not fully understanding how wrong. Without going into details, I am aware of a situation where a young babysitter explored some sexual behavior with the children she was babysitting. Now that she is grown, she is repulsed and sickened by that behavior and couldn’t be further from a child molester. I have seen firsthand how she has regretted and begged for forgiveness as she now understands what she did. It is still horrific and disgusting and reprehensible, but she is not a monster–just once a confused girl who made some really bad choices.

    • Carrie says:

      Once can easily be counted as experimenting or just a stupid mistake, but 5 girls for over a year is different. That is knowing what you are doing. Continuing past the first is nothing but a crime. No excusing it. He should be on sexual offenders list.

  61. Keiva Harrington says:

    THANK YOU! Finally someone sane, writes a truly clear and affective response. I too was assaulted by my brother for five years and 9 other girls came forward as victims too. This is NOT a child hood mistake. This is a crime. Idiots ! Wake up! Quit with this Crap about forgive and forget. You have no right to comment if you have never been in this situation. You don’t understand the long term affect it has. These girls need counseling, a lot of it. The fact that they had the audacity to bring the offender back in he home is beyond me. I am so thankful someone finally spoke out in truth. If this was an 18 yr old stranger you would be tying the noose yourself, why is blood so different? We would never expect a victim to live with their assailant why are there double standards on relatives?

  62. jlynno says:

    you said:

    Here is a list of a few common, teenage mistakes:
    Taking your dad’s car without asking. Cheating on an exam because you didn’t study.
    Sneaking out to go to a party your parents told you you couldn’t go to.
    Hosting a party while your parents are out of town.
    Getting a tattoo of your boyfriend’s/girlfriend’s/Taylor Swift’s face.

    I’m sorry, but sin is sin…

    It’s not about one sin weighing more than another.

    How long do you think Mr Duggar needs to carry this burden you want to hand him?

    “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone…” John 8:7.

    • Carrie says:

      Jlynno, this post or the issue is not whether it is a sin. Although that’s where comments keep going. It is about Josh Duggar committing a crime (molesting) against 5 girls and given a pass to get away with it that anyone else would do years in jail if committed.. He should be registered as a sex offender and do jail time. It isn’t about which sins are greater as everyone keeps posting. It’s not about forgiveness, or hanging from a noose. Pure and simple he admitted molesting children which is a crime and he should have to go to jail just like any other sex offender. Nothing more, nothing less.

      • B. says:

        I worked in social work for years–for the department of children’s services. I worked with dozens of teens who molested family members or friends or who were molested. Not one was ever charged, prosecuted, or in jail. It was all circumstantial evidence, and the only consequence was sometimes a no contact order. The state put services in the homes (which was my job). That was the extent of it. Please find one case of a 14 year old kid who has ever fondled their younger siblings and is serving years in jail or is even labeled as a sex offender. Just one case.

        • Carrie says:

          He didn’t just fondle and for proof he CONFESSED. And it went on for a year with 5 victims. That is much more than just a touch of curiosity. Sorry I disagree with you. If no one you ever saw was jailed, someone wasn’t doing their job.

          • B. says:

            He did fondle–just fondle–although that’s still horrible. Why do you think he did more than that? And the cases I saw were across multiple counties, with multiple law enforcement departments and multiple judges. I assure you, people do not go to jail for years for fondling girls at age 14.

            You know why? Because the jails are already full with people who do far worse crimes–far more heinous. Actual rape. Actual murder. So they have no choice but to let some go. Would it have made anyone feel better if he had actually been charged, pleaded guilty or no contest, and been given probation? That is likely the worst that would have happened. And it still would have been off his record as an adult.

          • Carrie says:

            Also B. The officer who originally decided to not arrest and tear up the report….well he is now doing 56 years for child pornography. He was just like Josh in the manner of speaking about abusers. That is why he didn’t get arrested then. Hummmmmmmmmmm Jim bob knew exactly which officer to take him too. Guess they were pals.

          • B. says:

            I’m sorry, but I’m not buying that Jim Bob knew that officer was bad, even before anyone else did. There’s no logic in the idea that Jim Bob would take his son to a dirty cop to get him help. I believe the Duggars did what they thought was right at the time. I believe they could have made better choices, but I don’t know if I would have done any better given the circumstances. I can’t imagine the horrible experience of having my son touch my daughter. It’s incomprehensible. My only point is that people act like he should be locked up for the rest of his life, and no matter what, that is not what would have happened, even if his parents had taken him straight to the police the first time. In all honesty, if they had taken him initially, he would have literally had no consequences at all.

      • B. says:

        And which choices are ok to be forgiven? Where do you draw the line of which burdens should be carried forever and which can be let go? And how do you arrive at that logic? What is your deepest, darkest secret–the worst thing you have ever done in your life? The thing that you regret most and wish it had never happened? Do you carry that with you forever too, or have you found a way to move forward in spite of it?

        • Sarah says:

          I didn’t call it a “choice” It is a vile, disgusting, horrific CRIME. I truly do not have any “deep dark secrets” I can’t even think of what would be the “worst thing I’ve ever done” I’ve never committed a heinous crime. But this isn’t about MY past or my sins. This is about someone who sexually abused his sisters, and has never had to suffer any kind of consequences. He HAS moved forward, clearly. And that is a privilege granted to him, that most VICTIMS of sexual assault do not get. This isn’t about religion, this isn’t about forgiveness, this is about CRIME. And the Victims of that crime. (I’m also done commenting on this.)

  63. Robin says:

    I a mother of a 16 yr old daughter who has been molested by her 1/2 brother at her dad’s house since she was 5.. I just found out 2 years ago and she has been in couseling ever since. I am doing everything I can to try to get him off the air nothing was done to my daughter’s brother either and she already has it in her head the perpetrators win! I will do anything for this cause we cannot let victims see perpetrators win!!!

    • Sarah says:

      I am so sorry that your daughter had to go through that! You’re a great mom, working to make sure she understands that this is NOT ok, and that those who commit these crimes should have to pay for them!!

  64. Kayla says:

    I find it amusing how y’all want to bash this family! But why doesn’t Honey Boo Boo air anymore? Bet not a single one of y’all knew that it was taken off because her mother IS with the guy who raped/molested the older sister! But y’all didn’t have anything negative to say there. And Honey Boo Boos mom waited until this guy got out of jail to be with him! That’s disgusting . why in the world would you want to be with someone so sexually hurt your daughter ? Like seriously? it’s not okay for this young man But it’s okay for Honey Boo Boo’s mother’s boyfriend to do that to her sister? Bahaha y’all are just down right sick humans!

    • Carrie says:

      Kayla, he at least went to jail for what he did. I think she is an absolute idiot. bUT AGAIN this post is about Josh duggers and his crime. Sarah only stated what she feels and believes in her heart about this one crime. If we could bash every single rapist, pediphile and molester WE WOULD. And I am sure that particular incident got its day of bashing also.

    • Sarah says:

      I don’t recall anyone, ever, saying that it was OK for Honey Boo Boo’s mom’s boyfriend. Everyone knows why that show was taken off the air. I have the same feelings towards ALL sexual abusers. But why do YOU think it’s ok for Josh Duggar to commit a heinous sexual assault on his own sisters…? I guess I’m just not quite sure what your point is.

  65. Carrie says:

    I am in a school system. I know exactly how little is done with DFCS and cases of abuse.,mental, physical and sexual. One case a principal called 13 different times on 13 different offenses. Not once did they do there job. Not only that the principal ended up having to go to police to get the child away from her abuser. Their reply was. Well usually we try but sometimes things fall into the cracks. 13 calls fell into the cracks. And the police did arrest her abuser who was still a minor. I don’t know your law in your state but where I live it is a punishable crime no matter the age.

    • B. says:

      Carrie, I did read the confession. There was no penetration. He fondled them–touched, felt, caressed–whatever you want to call it–he did not penetrate them. What else do you think he did?

      Also, I never said kids aren’t arrested–I said they don’t go to jail for years, as everyone seems to think is wht should happen to Josh Duggar. They are put into foster care, sometimes with another family member who is willing to take them if the victim is still in the home, or they are put in a group home. They have services places in the home (this was my job), and the case worker makes a safety plan that consists of counseling for all involved, no contact with victim, constant supervision, meet probation officer regularly, have drug screens, etc. once the safety plan is completed and all goals are met, the perpetrator is considered to be rehabilitated and is allowed to go home, in most cases, particularly where no penetration is involved.

      Don’t be so critical of Children’s Services. The workers there are over worked, under paid, and under trained. You wouldn’t believe the sheer number of children who are abused and neglected everyday, and in situations FAR worse than the Duggars. You couldn’t even imagine some of the things I have seen in homes where the families were actually allowed to keep their children with services in place.

  66. Gennie says:

    Forgiveness is what it is all about. There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be any person who can claim they are perfect. Certainly not me. Jesus was the only human being to have been born and lived a perfect life because He was 100% God and 100% mortal man. The only reason Josh Dugger has been targeted is because he is a well known celebrity on TV. There are many other crimes and “molestations” that happen that you never hear about every day. Jesus has already forgiven him as He forgives me every single day when I sin. Jesus died to pay the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of the world including Josh. Read Romans in the Bible. You too can accept His free gift of Salvation. Then you can live knowing you are going to Heaven when you die because all our sins are already paid for. Josh was wrong but we cannot judge him from his past. We all have a past. Has anyone noticed the way girls dress today ???? And their parents allow it. Their clothing leaves nothing for the imagination. When a girl puts herself on display this way, she is advertising. I am not guiltless in this matter. But I have been forgiven. I truly believe Josh is trying to live for the Lord now. Bible says “be sure, your sin will find you out. God sees and hears everything we say and do and it grieves Him when he see us doing wrong. I sin everyday but I ask forgiveness everyday too.

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